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Paper: I think Deb hit on the points I was trying to make. The proposed National ID card is NOTHING like the SS card [on which it clearly states that this card may NOT be used for identification.]
Proposals include fingerprints, the obligatory picture, retinal scans, and a chip that includes all the information available for you since practically BIRTH.
It would be used for identification purposes and who knows what else? Police COULD stop you on the street and ask for it.
Personally, I'm still struggling with the privacy issues involved with the Kroger card and Albertson's card. I've heard of people getting them under false names, but I wasn't astute enough to try that.
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"on which it clearly states that this card may NOT be used for identification."
Doesn't actually say that anymore.
Best Wishes,,,,,
Z
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Z
Doesn't actually say that anymore.
That must have been the Torquemada Provision. "We can do whatever we want, whenever we want, and you can't do a thing about it."
Isn't that the point, here ?
DebS:
I don't actually remember what it says now. One of my students showed me one a while ago.
To paraphrase, while not intended for identification it can be used as such if agreed to by the holder and other parties.
While cleaning, I found my grandfathers SS card. He got it when the program started. It is solid copper with embossed information. Doesn't seem to say anything about identification. I think that I will clean it up and frame it. It is quite pretty.
Best Wishes,,,,
Z
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While not intended for identification it can be used as such if agreed to by the holder and other parties
I don't recall anyone asking for my agreement... much less any third parties who've used the ID# to set up their databases.
Blue Cross requires your SS# and then incorporates it into your Blue Cross ID#. If I refused to allow it *for that purpose*, would I be denied insurance, I wonder? I don't know of anyone who has tested this, but it would be interesting to find out.
Uh, if that is indeed the wording...
And if it's NOT the wording, well then.... it almost doesn't matter WHAT the wording is, if you see what I mean. :-)
Yep Deb S:
By accepting Blue Cross, you have given tacit agreement; as I understand it. When you have given it one time, it goes forever. That is why I said that, IMHO, it is an national ID. Others may argue. Particulary Anita. ;o))) Hell, my employee ID is my SS number.
Best Wishes,,,,,
Z
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Yep Deb S:
By accepting Blue Cross, you have given tacit agreement; as I understand it. When you have given it one time, it goes forever. That is why I said that, IMHO, it is an national ID. Others may argue. Particulary Anita. ;o))) Hell, my employee ID is my SS number.
Best Wishes,,,,,
Z
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Z: There's NO WAY that a SS card or number will be used as a national ID. There's no picture associated with it, and no indication of the age of the holder.
My girls went out last night to do the Jenna/Barbara Bush thing. The oldest one is of age, but the other is only 20. #1 got #2 a driver's license that SOME folks thought looked like her. *I* didn't think it looked like her AT ALL, but who am *I*? She got into the club and they partied until dawn. I wonder now whether I should call her Birgit or Amanda. She intends to go out Friday night again as Amanda.
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